Gmail problem

[watervole]

I've been switching gradually over to Gmail after hitting problems with Thunderbird (It crashes badly after power cuts)

However, I've hit a problem with postings to Googlegroups.  My own postings to Googlegroups don't appear in my gmail inbox.  This is a problem, firstly because it confirms that the message has arrived, and secondly because I sometimes want to reply to my own posts.

I know Gmail is getting them, becasue they are still faithfully forwarded to my other account.

Does anyone know a setting to fix this?  I couldn't find anything in Gmail help.

Comments

[uitlander]

I suspect that groups & gmail are being 'too smart'. We have seen a few glitches like this to do with privacy, where google exposes a gmail address when you send a message to a different one and the two accounts are linked.

[watervole.livejournal.com]

I'm not quite sure what you're saying.

I only have one gmail account. It sends a carbon to my waveney account.

[uitlander]

Gmail seem to 'filter out' messages sent from a gmail account to groups so that you don;t see a 'duplicate copy'. There seems to be quite a bit of back end processing in gmail to handle messages 'smartly' like this. You don;t seem to be able to turn much of the 'smart processing' off, although they do keep enhancing the product so things change quite a bit. Some of their 'smart processing' can cause problems.

We have found a very nasty privacy bug in gmail, which despite promises Google have not yet fixed. If you have linked more than one email address via the Google profile page, Google assumes that the gmail address is the primary. Under certain circumstances it will re-address mail sent to say foo@bar.com to foo@gmail.com if these two addresses are linked in the Google profile page (usually for password reset reasons). So mail goes to the wrong address, and worse the 'wrong address' is also exposed to the sender of the message.

This is one of the reasons we have not deployd gmail at the university. Imagine a student sends a message to their tutor@university.ac.uk, and the sent message instead shows as being sent to kinkypervert@gmail.com. That would be a bit of a breach of privacy, and is down to their 'smart processing'.

[rockwell-666.livejournal.com]

Gmail filters out messages from you in GoogleGroups because "well, you sent them, so you know what's in them, don't you"?

Personally I won't touch Gmail with a bargepole because when you sign up for it you give Google permission to scan all your e-mails and send you "targeted advertising" based on the message content and this allows Google to build up a profile of your internet activities which is why I won't search on Google when Signed In to its service either.

What is the problem you're having with Thunderbird? If it's an indexing problem, you can right click on eg "Inbox" and select Properties, then under General Information there's a "Repair Folder" function which will rebuild the index.

[watervole.livejournal.com]

Tried your suggestion, but it didn't fix the address book.

THe problem with Thunderbird is documentation. It's not intuitive and when something goes wrong - eg losing 'reply all' option after a power cut - I can't work out how to restore it.

On Gmail, things like that are much easier.

I don't mind them reading my emails. I figure the world doesn't really care that much about my obscure hobbies and if they ever offer a target ad on my Gmail page that I actually want (morris bells?) then I'll be happy. they don't spam me.

The problem with googlegroups is that I want the option to reply to my own messages - and to be certain they arrived.

[alexmc.livejournal.com]

I have noticed this and believe it is "by design".

After all - your sent messages don't appear in your Inbox - until someone replies to them.

I have a suggestion. Can you set up a Filter for the group? (look at the headers on an post received from the group. You should see a message like "Filter messages from this mailing list".)

You should be able to do things like tag those messages, put them into "folders", and possibly if you want force them into the Inbox.

[watervole.livejournal.com]

You're a star! The creation of the filter seems to have persuaded it.

(and I couldn't have set up the filter without your helpful instructions)