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Judith Proctor ([personal profile] watervole) wrote2010-12-13 03:42 pm

Positive coverage of Muslim leaders

It's so nice to see a newspaper article about Muslims who made it clear that they didn't want terrorism.  Usually newspapers keep asking why the moderate Muslims aren't speaking out, and then don't give them coverage when they do.

Credit to the Independent.  Yes the guy did go on to blow himself up in Sweden, but he didn't  do it in Luton, because the Luton Islamic Centre made it clear that he did not represent their views and that they didn't want him sowing discord there.


[identity profile] vjezkova.livejournal.com 2010-12-13 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I wish so much this could spread. Well done!

[identity profile] melodyclark.livejournal.com 2010-12-13 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Did the Luton Islamic Centre know of his actions beforehand? That would be troubling if they hadn't contacted authorities.

Regardless, no one decried all Christians when Tim McVeigh blew up the Oklahoma Federal Building. The reason they blame all Muslims for the acts of a few madmen is nothing but bigotry.
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Re: Not really...

[identity profile] undyingking.livejournal.com 2010-12-14 09:39 am (UTC)(link)
The analogy is also incorrect in another way, as McVeigh, although raised a Christian, had renounced the faith by the time of his bombing. He is quoted as saying "Science is my religion".

However there are plenty of atrocities carried out explicitly in the name of Chrstianity, by eg. the Lord's Resistance Army in Uganda. I have never seen their actions attributed to "Christians".

So I disagree with your claim that "The media does not blame all Muslims." It may not do so explicitly, but does by implication whenever a headine along the lines of "Muslims do terrible thing X" is used.

Re: Not really...

[identity profile] melodyclark.livejournal.com 2010-12-14 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
And McVeigh also renounced THAT "science" proclamation before his death. He doesn't seem to have believed in anything. But to say that McVeigh, who was nominally a Christian, does not reflect badly on all Christians, but that the acts of extremist Muslims damns the whole religion, is revealing the prejudices of the person making the judgment.


Re: Not really...

[identity profile] melodyclark.livejournal.com 2010-12-14 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I love when anonymous people so bravely disagree.

If you honestly think there are no extremist elements in Christianity, I suggest you look at Fred Phelps, who campaigns for the deaths of his opponents, and Pat Robertson who won't allow black employees in his front entrance. Fundamentalist Christianity is now a haven for the KKK, racism, sexism, homophobia, anti-science demagogues (who do as much harm as terrorists by preventing medical research), and myriad other noxious elements. The entire religion embraces inane nonsense regarding virgin births and impossible miracles which the US founding fathers thought would be considered silly myths within a few years of their own lives. Modern right-wing Christianity has created a blockade of progress in EVERY avenue of life.

That is terrorism of its own kind.
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[identity profile] melodyclark.livejournal.com 2010-12-15 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
Believe whatever you like, the truth remains the truth.

And next time, have some guts and put your name to your opinion.
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[identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com 2010-12-15 09:12 am (UTC)(link)
I'm going to delete all anonymous comments on this thread. My friends have a right to express their opinions here, strangers do not.