watervole: (money)
Judith Proctor ([personal profile] watervole) wrote2010-12-08 01:17 pm

Student Fees - one obvious solution

How do you get a degree from a good-quality university for under £5000 ? (In total, not per year)

Simple, use the Open University.

Richard's currently looking into doing a PhD in Astrophysics with the OU, probable cost around £2000 per year.

Their cheapest short course - for people who want to dip their toes in the water of degree-level study is only £110.

You can do your degree over as long or as short a time-period as you want.  You can hold down a full-time job at the same time.  They're very flexible as to who they accept - often accepting people with lower qualifications if they have other qualities they can bring to the course.

In short, anyone concerned about rising tuition costs should think seriously about the OU.



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[personal profile] selenay 2010-12-08 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I did my degree through the OU and loved it. Not ending up with huge debts and not having to start out on a named degree for the first couple of courses was perfect for me.

Even better, I now have a job that uses some of the courses that I did in my degree and I've never had anyone question the value of my degree, which was something that did worry me initially. I'd recommend it to anyone :-)

[identity profile] swisstone.livejournal.com 2010-12-08 01:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, yes, except that OU fees are undoubtedly going to have to go up significantly, as the OU will lose the teaching grants just like everyone else will.
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[personal profile] uitlander 2010-12-08 05:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Indeed. The projections I've seen are that the OU will be one of the worst hit Institutions unless the Government decides to make a special case for it. Much as I hope they do, I fear it's unlikely with this lot.
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[personal profile] uitlander 2010-12-09 12:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you. I couldn't remember where I'd seen that, but this is the source.
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[identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com 2010-12-09 12:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Bugger. The OU really was the best option for those on tight budgets.

[identity profile] fjm.livejournal.com 2010-12-08 01:58 pm (UTC)(link)
The OU received special protection under the last government after they were badly affected by the "no equal qualifcations"change. You really think a government so antagonistic to social mobiity is going to leave that in place?

Also: Richard is doing a STEM subject. STEM subjects are keeping their funding.

[identity profile] swisstone.livejournal.com 2010-12-08 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
To be honest, that 'special protection' doesn't seem to have amounted to much if the doom and gloom coming down from the management is anything to go by.

[identity profile] fjm.livejournal.com 2010-12-08 01:59 pm (UTC)(link)
And a ps: they are as constrained by completion times as the rest of us. If they don't want their PhDs funded, it doesn't matter. If they do, then it does.
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[personal profile] winterbadger 2010-12-08 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
They are in general a very good bargain; I wish that community colleges in the US were as flexible and cheap as the OU.

One drawback is the very limited selection of offerings in some areas. I looked at the OU master's in history programme a year or two ago, and it didn't offer much breadth. I looked again just now, and they have six modules, of which the student takes four: crime and policing, urban history, industrialization, poverty and welfare, families, and religion. Religion and urban history, the only two of those with any great appeal to me, are severely truncated, only covering the period from the mid-eighteenth century forward. The crime and policing module deals only with the last 35 years--it's less history and more straight criminology.

But, as they say, beggars can't be choosers. I am, however, struck by how nearly impossible it is to get any idea of costs for that programme beyond a vague "£3,000 to 6,000"; that's, erm, quite a range.
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[identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com 2010-12-08 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)
The costs depend on which units you choose. If you look up an individual unit, you'll find the cost given there.
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[personal profile] winterbadger 2010-12-08 06:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't, when I looked up the modules for that programme. They had lots of other information, but no prices. I may not have been looking in the right place, but I looked quite hard, so it's a web design flaw at the very least.
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[identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com 2010-12-08 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I found a price on the first unit I looked at.
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[personal profile] winterbadger 2010-12-08 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
That's grand. All I'm saying is, I looked at a programme I was interested in and spent a good deal of time searching, and the information isn't there. I'm a seasoned web user. That spells bad design.
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[identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com 2010-12-08 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Fair point.

[identity profile] jon-a-five.livejournal.com 2010-12-08 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Also OU loses the aspect of moving away from home and learning how to become independent.
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[identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com 2010-12-08 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure that's necessarily a bad thing. Moving away from home tends to result in scattered families. None of my siblings ended up living near our parents after university.

It also increases costs. Living at home saves a lot of money for a typical student.

[identity profile] vjezkova.livejournal.com 2010-12-08 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Your OU is a fantastic project and I envy it to you.
I know that it works because my best friend studies history and literature there!