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Judith Proctor ([personal profile] watervole) wrote2010-02-13 04:59 pm
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The Evangelist Bell

One of the things I inherited from my grandmother was her dinner bell (which I'd always liked).  It's a brass bell about the size of a teacup and has the words mattheus marcus lucas johannes around the middle, along with the apropriate symbol for each: the winged man, the lion of St Mark, the winged ox of St Luke and the eagle.



It's not identical to the larger one in the picture, but it is very similar.

Google has failed me in trying to find out more about my bell, apart from the fact that it's called an 'Evangelist' bell because of the names of the four evanagelists (gospel writers).
I assume it may have been made as a copy of some original bell, and the fact that there are very similar ones out there tends to reinforce this.

Does anyone know where the  design of the bell originally came from.

It's not valuable - brass rarely is - but I'd like to know a bit more about it.

[identity profile] reapermum.livejournal.com 2010-02-13 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
A bell is rung during Mass at the consecration, it may originally be related to that.

[identity profile] murphys-lawyer.livejournal.com 2010-02-13 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
We've got one of those, and we use it as a dinner bell too.
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[identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com 2010-02-13 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Where did your one come from?

[identity profile] murphys-lawyer.livejournal.com 2010-02-13 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
From my mother. Judging by its similarity to the smaller bell in your picture (writing Leo Aquila Agnus Pelicanus) it's a sanctuary bell. There's an identical one going on eBay here (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BRASS-SANCTUARY-BELL-AGNUS-PELICANUS-LEO-AQUILA_W0QQitemZ150411982435QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxq20100208?IMSfp=TL100208172004r27102).
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[identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com 2010-02-14 09:14 am (UTC)(link)
Interesting - I'd like to know more about the origins of that one.

We've got the lion, lamb, pelican and eagle. The sanctuary bell is rung at various times during mass, one of them might tie into the lamb of God, but I can't see any logic for the others. The eagle might represent the holy spirit. I could make a case for the pelican representing blood (in mythology, it feeds its young by pecking blood from its breast). Any guesses for the lion? I don't think it can be St Mark in this instance (is it winged?).
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[identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com 2010-02-14 12:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Interesting. It looks as though my guess about the Pelican was correct. And the lion represents the Kingly nature of Christ, which answers my question.

Inkwell has same handle as one on your link

[identity profile] chipnanna.livejournal.com 2011-11-10 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
Hello,
Thanks for the link. My brass inkwell is exactly like the bell, handle and all, except it's an inkwell.

[identity profile] veronica-milvus.livejournal.com 2010-02-14 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
We had one of those when I was a kid - just realised that when Mum died it wasn't among her things. Wonder who took it?

Evangelist bell

(Anonymous) 2010-04-14 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I have one. Im having a hard time getting any info on it!



http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-art-collectibles-Old-Brass-Bell-W0QQAdIdZ198603416
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Re: Evangelist bell

[identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com 2010-04-15 06:24 am (UTC)(link)
I was told by an antique dealer (but have no way of knowing if he was correct) that they were replicas made by the British Museum. But what they are supposed to be replicas of, I have no idea.

Re: Evangelist bell

(Anonymous) 2010-05-04 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
I have one also, but mine appears to be bronze, not brass. Any ideas?
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Re: Evangelist bell

[identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com 2010-05-04 07:08 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't seen a bronze one myself. Have you polished it? I know mine used to look a very different colour before I cleaned it up.

evangelist bell

(Anonymous) 2010-05-15 08:11 am (UTC)(link)
I have an evangelist bell but it's made of silver, not brass.

Evangelist/Sanctus Bell

[identity profile] pola-guna.livejournal.com 2011-02-19 12:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I have quite a collection of these little bells. They are found at boot sales; on eBay; charity shops etc. They are not expensive. The odd thing is that my researches have found out very little about their purpose. I guess they are decorative table bells mostly. Of course there is a strong tradition in of bell usage in religious ceremonies. I remember the Catholic Mass having a bell rung at a significant moment.
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Re: Evangelist/Sanctus Bell

[identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com 2011-02-19 12:16 pm (UTC)(link)
My grandmother used hers as a dinner bell. I often wonder if they were copied from some larger historical bell.

Re: Evangelist/Sanctus Bell

[identity profile] pola-guna.livejournal.com 2011-02-19 12:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Until a year ago I was not interested in bells, well, not in any significant way. It was only when, at a boot sale, I started talking to a stall holder about a brass bell she was selling that my interest started. As I handled the bell, and looked more closely at the relief work, I suddenly realized that something special was in my hands. The lady told me that it belonged to her grandmother and it was always on the mantle shelf; she knew little else about it. I bought the bell for four pounds and since then I have built up quite a collection. This little bell was cast using the lost wax method....I'll see if I can post a photo of it sometime.

Mine is an INKWELL, just like yours, but is inkwell

[identity profile] chipnanna.livejournal.com 2011-11-10 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
I found your post, because I am researching a brass inkwell, that looks exactly like your bell, but the top handle is a bit different, and it has an inkwell inside, but same inscriptions and pictures. I know it is old, because it's been in my family for well over 70 years.
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Re: Mine is an INKWELL, just like yours, but is inkwell

[identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com 2011-11-10 07:55 am (UTC)(link)
Interesting. I'm sure they must be based on some original somewhere - not least because of the unusual spelling of the names. Do you have a photo?