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Judith Proctor ([personal profile] watervole) wrote2009-01-18 03:38 pm
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Frustrating Scrabble part deux

I think people partly got the wrong idea.

I wasn't frustrated just becasue I was losing, but because I was facing a player who didn't seem to be putting any thought into the game.  Having realised why I was losing - board too blocked - I sacrificed a blank to create some open space and am now over a hundred points in the lead.

I'm still frustrated.  If you're a Scrabble player, maybe you'll understand the frustration caused by an opponent who manages to score 6 on a triple word score (with lots of free space around it).  She played 'at'.  Having looked at the tiles left in the game, I'm sure she could have managed one of cat, sat, mat, bat, fat, hat, vat, etc. before we even look at longer easy words.

I play games for both the challenge and for the social element.  This particular player isn't interested in chatting (I've tried a few messages) and seems to have no real interest in the game.  I can only guess that for her its a pastime on the level that my great aunt used to play Patience.  You do it a lot and it helps pass the time.

(Someone asked why I don't abandon the game. Fair question. Partly courtesy.  It's rude to abandon a game part way through. Whatever her reasons for playing, she obviously gets something out of it as she plays her turns faster than anyone else I'm playing.  I may find her annoying, but that's no reason to dip out on her.)

I'll stick to playing friends in future.  All the seven other people I'm playing at present are players who put some thought into what they're doing.  Some, like [livejournal.com profile] megamole , are far better players than I am, but the game is fun.  And knowing who I'm playing creates part of the social aspect for me.

[identity profile] rgemini.livejournal.com 2009-01-18 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Just a thought ... are you sure it's person you're playing and not a bot?
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[identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com 2009-01-18 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I must admit that the thought had crossed my mind, but I'm sure a bot would have managed better than 6 on a triple word score.

[identity profile] rgemini.livejournal.com 2009-01-18 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Reading some of your other comments - sped of play, not replying to messages etc - I'm beginning to be convinced it is a bot and not a person. Bad plays may well just be down to poor algorithms. Wonder how you could find out?

BTW I'm interested in your rules of thumb for better play - are they documented anywhere?
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[identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com 2009-01-18 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
My rules of thumb are:

Never use a blank or an s unless you will score at least 25 points (if you're a really good player, set that value as high as 50)

Never play a tile worth more than two points unless you can double it (and most of the time you can)

If your turn scores less than 20, you probably aren't looking hard enough - try and see what you've missed.

Try and hang onto the letters RETAINS - you'll find your odds of a 7-letter word are greatly increased it you do this.

Look at the premium squares on the board and see if you can get your high scoring letters onto them.

QI, XI and ZA/ZA are remarkably useful words.

Just that lot, with no extra word knowledge at all, will improve your average score by around 50%
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[identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com 2009-01-19 12:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Oops! Zo and Za
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[identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com 2009-01-18 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
BTW fancy a game? I play Scrabble Worldwide on Facebook under my own name.

I'm sure she's not a bot. A bot would have got more out of the triple word score. THey can just run through the dictionary.

[identity profile] rgemini.livejournal.com 2009-01-19 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I've sent a friend request via Facebook ... not sure if I got the right you though?
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[identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com 2009-01-19 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, it's me.

House rules for Srabble - which are optional, but the ones I use.

Partners/children may assist with turns, but the final decision is always yours.

No use of anagram-solving programs.

Two letter words lists are there to be used.

Look up words if you aren't sure if they're correct, but don't go overboard trying every combination if you didn't think it stood a chance in the first place. (three letter words are almost fair game, don't feel too guilty about trying a few more of those as you get to know them in time in any case)

There are no turn deadlines. If a turn is very late, then it's probably because I'm not well enough to type, or knee-deep in convention work. (ie. Neither of us force a win if the other fails to put in a turn, or at least not without asking first)

[identity profile] communicator.livejournal.com 2009-01-18 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I can sympathise - she is perhaps terribly young, or not very smart. Doesn't make her a bad person, but a frustrating opponent. Console yourself that she is probably learning a lot from playing against you.
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[identity profile] kalypso-v.livejournal.com 2009-01-18 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I think she's from Torchwood.

[identity profile] communicator.livejournal.com 2009-01-18 06:24 pm (UTC)(link)
It all fits - terribly young and not very smart - I think you are onto something
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[identity profile] kalypso-v.livejournal.com 2009-01-18 06:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I was thinking more "surviving through sheer incompetence" - also, it makes sense that she plays her turns very fast, because she's always online checking for weevils or Rift activity or something, but she can't pause to think about the moves because Captain Jack keeps yelling orders through her earpiece.
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[identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com 2009-01-18 06:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I rather like this theory!
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[identity profile] kalypso-v.livejournal.com 2009-01-18 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, it might be more fun playing her if you imagine all that going on at the other end!
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[identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com 2009-01-18 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
That's part of the frustration. I asked her if she'd like a few tips - there's a few easy rules of thumb that can make an amazing difference to one's play. (Well, they certainly improved my game for very little added effort) She didn't even reply.

[identity profile] philbradley.livejournal.com 2009-01-18 06:01 pm (UTC)(link)
As an experiment, it might be worth seeing if one your scrabble pals wants to play her - see what happens!
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[personal profile] julesjones 2009-01-18 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
That sounds like either bot or non-English speaker using a dictionary.