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Judith Proctor ([personal profile] watervole) wrote2008-11-09 12:59 pm
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Remembrance Sunday

I'm opposed to war (though I also recognise cases where it is necessary - eg. any country determined on wiping out a large ethnic minority should not be allowed to do so).

I don't believe in life after death either - and I tend to think most things honouring the dead are just a form of ancestor worship.

I can resist schmaltzy films with cheerful cynicism.

But the Remembrance Day parade brings tears to my eyes.

The BBC's commentary is perfect.  The commentator calmly identifies each group marching and says no more than a sentence or two about where they fought.  I think it's the fact that there is no attempt to manipulate my emotions that makes it so strong.  It allows the facts and the people to speak for themselves.

I watch them marching, most on foot, some in wheelchairs, some marching with crutches, all dressed in uniform or smart civilian clothes depending on their unit.  Not just the soldiers, but those who went down the pits, the merchant navy, all those who contributed to the war effort.  (I'm crying while typing this)

There's no hype, no glorifying of war, no dwelling on its tragedies, just the endless parade of those who have come to remember fallen comrades.  Maybe it's the length of the procession that makes it so telling.  These are just the survivors, the old, those who remain.  Seeing them makes one realise, as perhaps mere numbers on a page can never do, the magnitude of war and the number of lives it touches.

In Flanders Fields

In Flanders Fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved, and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch, be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields


I'm off to make another donation to the British Legion.




[identity profile] decemberleaf.livejournal.com 2008-11-09 02:22 pm (UTC)(link)
...the magnitude of war and the number of lives it touches. Your post made me look for a picture of Maya Ying Lin's Vietnam Veterans Memorial which I visited when I went to Washington with a friend, ten years ago, to celebrate my 60th birthday. I knew it would be the single somber experience of the weekend but hadn't expected how much so. I'm crying while typing this too. The memorial is "just" a long low wall of black granite nestled into the land, one wing pointing to the Washington Monument, the other to the Lincoln Memorial, with the names of the soldiers beautifully carved in the chronological order of their deaths. Here is an aerial view: http://www.greatbuildings.com/cgi-bin/gbg.cgi/Vietnam_Veterans_Memorial.html/38.891225/-77.047613/19.
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[identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com 2008-11-09 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
The size of the wall really shows in the photo. Reminds me of one I saw in a seaside town last summer. It was just for naval deaths, and there were way too many of them, and all local.

[identity profile] auntygillian.livejournal.com 2008-11-09 03:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I had exactly the same reaction. I was in the gym, which has TVs by the exercise machines. I've not watched or been to a remembrance day parade for maybe 25 years. The huge variety of roles that people play in conflicts was staggering (telegraphists, Bevin's miners, 'scouts' in the reconnaissance sense, women mechanics in WW2 to name a few that were in the march past). I was ashamed that I hadn't bought a poppy for many of those years. Similarly off to make a donation.

[identity profile] lil-shepherd.livejournal.com 2008-11-09 04:06 pm (UTC)(link)
It always makes me cry too - particularly anything about reconciliation, like the year they showed German ex-soldiers laying wreaths on British service graves and vice versa... Anthem for Doomed Youth makes me bawl....
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[identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com 2008-11-09 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Me too, anything that involves British/German/Japanese soldiers showing respect for one another's dead - lump in my throat every time.

[identity profile] vjezkova.livejournal.com 2008-11-09 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
This is beautiful and the poppies are a wonderful symbol here.

[identity profile] melodyclark.livejournal.com 2008-11-09 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
A beautiful post, Judith. Thanks for making it.

[identity profile] merrymaia.livejournal.com 2008-11-10 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for posting this.

[identity profile] rgemini.livejournal.com 2008-11-10 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
They shall grow not old
As we that are left grow old
Age shall not weary them,
Nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun
And in the morning
We will remember them.

In memoriam RSM Ernest J Pearce, Ox and Bucks Lt Infantry
4 Oct 1883 - 11 Feb 1916
RIP, Hebuterne, France
My late father's beloved uncle.

[identity profile] decemberleaf.livejournal.com 2008-11-11 01:46 pm (UTC)(link)
November 11th, 2008. This poem: once more, tears.