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Judith Proctor ([personal profile] watervole) wrote2006-01-13 09:21 am

Grockles

[livejournal.com profile] waveney and I were discussing grockles this morning. The word is generally recognised around here and is in Brewers Phrase and Fable, but I was surprised to discover that http://dictionary.reference.com/ had never heard of the word.

Wikipaedia did slightly better, though they list it as being Weymouth and Portland in usage (and the definition was correct-ish) and it's found across more of Dorset than that.

So, where do you live, and do you know what a 'grockle' is? The answer is, of course, a tourist. It isn't particularly a derogatory term (though perhaps slightly dismissive), it's just people who come here for their holidays - non-locals.

[identity profile] vicarage.livejournal.com 2006-01-13 09:50 am (UTC)(link)
I knew it, though not from my childhood. Not surprising really, not many tourists in SE London suburbia.
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[personal profile] paranoidangel 2006-01-13 09:53 am (UTC)(link)
I know what a grockle is, although we always call them groks.

[identity profile] darth-tigger.livejournal.com 2006-01-13 10:03 am (UTC)(link)
I'd never heard of the word, and wouldn't have guessed its meaning (though I might have in context). I'm from Derbyshire, went to uni in Manchester, now live in Nottingham. So I know what mardy, cob and twitchell mean, but grockle's a new one on me.

[identity profile] del-c.livejournal.com 2006-01-13 10:09 am (UTC)(link)
I know it, but only because my mum now lives in Swanage. I spent Christmas there, and my mum's partner came back from walking the dog on Boxing Day to complain that he came across a coachload of grockles. It's definitely a Dorset word in my mind.

[identity profile] munchkinstein.livejournal.com 2006-01-13 10:14 am (UTC)(link)
I have heard the word used by people from Hampshire. My favourite local version is that used by the locals on Arran who refer to tourists as "ferry-loupers". i.e. People who jump off a ferry, cause hassle and then jump back on again.

[identity profile] djelibeybi-meg.livejournal.com 2006-01-13 10:47 am (UTC)(link)
The first time I heard the term was when visiting native Paignton-ians referring to tourists. Circa 1985

[identity profile] alex-holden.livejournal.com 2006-01-13 11:03 am (UTC)(link)
I've never heard it, but then we don't tend to get tourists in Burnley.

[identity profile] ladyoflight2004.livejournal.com 2006-01-13 11:29 am (UTC)(link)
This is the first time I've come across the word - but I grew up in Stepney, East London and now live south of the river in Bexleyheath, Kent. Not a lot of reason to come across grockles in either area. But it's an add-on to my vocabulary, so thanks.

[identity profile] egyptophile.livejournal.com 2006-01-13 11:55 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, I live in Sale, but know the word through visits to Devon many years ago.

Three or four years ago it was used in a University Challenge question which asked for the equivalent term in Cornwall.
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[identity profile] dougs.livejournal.com 2006-01-13 11:57 am (UTC)(link)
I'm familiar with the word. My late wife lived in Weymouth in the 1960s (working in Winfrith), so that would have helped.

Martin Nicholas, a minister who used to be at the United Reformed Church in Weymouth, wrote a wonderful song called "Grockle Rock".

[identity profile] whotheheckami.livejournal.com 2006-01-13 12:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I grew up in Llandudno and can remember using the work grockles to descibe tourists, especially those who clogged up the roads in the Summer. I can also remember the word "emmets" being used
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[identity profile] dougs.livejournal.com 2006-01-13 03:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, now I've only heard the word "emmets" from a Cornishmen, referring to people not from Cornwall -- independent of any tourism-related activity. So a Cornishman working in Bracknell was "amongst the Emmets".

[identity profile] frandowdsofa.livejournal.com 2006-01-13 12:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I live in Sheffield now, but I've known the word for years - we spent a lot of childhool holidays in North Devon.

[identity profile] johnrw.livejournal.com 2006-01-13 01:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I know it mainly from a friend of mine who comes from the Black Country, though it's been occasionally heard around here as well (Cheshire).

[identity profile] reapermum.livejournal.com 2006-01-13 03:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm from the Black Country and I've known it for years. Do you think we know it because we are them?

(Anonymous) 2006-01-13 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I know it, and I would have regarded it as at best at least slightly derogatory, but that's probably because every other local dialect synonym for "tourist" and/or "you're not from around these parts, *are* you?" that I know is at best at least slightly derogatory...
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[personal profile] julesjones 2006-01-13 05:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I could have sworn I was logged in, you know...

[identity profile] pinkdormouse.livejournal.com 2006-01-13 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Not a Derbyshire or Yorkshire word at all in my experience.

Gina

[identity profile] espresso-addict.livejournal.com 2006-01-13 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
My family used it further along the coast in Hampshire. I'd say it had a derogatory edge.

[identity profile] raspberryfool.livejournal.com 2006-01-14 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I've known it for a good few years, as a friend of mine is from Kingsbridge in Devon. I've used it ever since to describe tourists, and folk often wonder what i'm on about!

One flatmate has a Devon Dialect ditionary, and this describes a 'grockle' as a visitor to Devon. I thought it was peculiar to Devon, but it's obviously spread along the south coast.